Dr Jason Fox joins us for a chat today. Jason's name has come up numerous times in previous podcasts, from me and some of my guests. Jason's been on the list to talk to as there are so many points of reference or connectedness, or as Jason says today 'poly-angulating'. Jason's writing and thinking has influenced the way I think and work, and the recent launch of his own podcast The Cleverness [https://www.drjasonfox.com/podcast/] seemed like a great occasion to link up. It was a real pleasure to go meandering with him, and for you to join us.