Darren Hill is a behavioural scientist, whose mission in life is to make a difference to the difference makers.  Listen in as we dig into the question, whether behaviour change is a dirty word in health and safety.

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Louise Howard leads health and safety at one of Sydney's largest infrastructure projects right now - a new metro line extending into Sydney's North West.  She'll tell you more about that in a minute. 

Louise is an action-researcher, which means learning through research, generally inside the place you work.  She's curious about the relationship between leadership and safety performance on this project.  

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Many of you will know Patrick Hudson from his work on safety culture.  We chat today about that, and I get to poke and prod his model, including the uses and abuses you need to be aware of when you are thinking about safety culture. 

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